Posted June 30, 2013

Reports: Raptors, Knicks agree to Andrea Bargnani trade

Andrea Bargnani, Ben Golliver, Marcus Camby, New York Knicks, Steve Novak, Toronto Raptors
(Rocky Widner/Getty Images)

Andrea Bargnani spent seven seasons with the Raptors. (Rocky Widner/Getty Images)

The Raptors have agreed to trade Andrea Bargnani to the Knicks, according to multiple reports.

The New York Times reports Sunday that the Raptors will part with the much-maligned Bargnani in exchange for a Knicks package that includes Marcus Camby, Steve Novak, a 2016 first-round pick and a future second-round pick. Yahoo! Sports also reported the agreement Sunday, noting that two future second-round picks would be in New York’s package for Toronto.

The New York Times and ESPN.com reported later Sunday that the agreement will not go official until at least July 10, when the free agency moratorium is lifted, and that the pieces involved in New York’s package might need to be adjusted to make the salary cap math work. Both teams are said to be committed to the agreement.

Bargnani, 27, averaged 12.7 points and 3.7 rebounds in 35 appearances last season, missing time with an elbow injury. The No. 1 overall pick in the 2006 draft is on the books for $10.8 million next season and holds a $11.5 million option for 2014-15.

Camby, 39, averaged 1.8 points and 3.3 rebounds in 24 appearances for the Knicks last season. One of the oldest players in the NBA, Camby will make $4.4 million in 2013-14 and $4.2 million in 2014-15, although only $1 million of that figure is guaranteed.

Novak, 30, averaged 6.6 points and 1.9 rebounds in 81 appearances for the Knicks last season. A three-point shooting specialist, Novak signed a four-year, $15 million contract last summer that is fully guaranteed.

TORONTO

Grade: A

A good chunk of Raptors fans didn’t need to read past the words “Andrea Bargnani traded” before grading the trade an “A.” It’s hard to blame them. The former No. 1 pick bottomed out last year, both on the court and in the court of public opinion. This was a nightmare season so bad it seemed to be put together in an evil doctor’s laboratory. If you wanted to construct the least likable NBA player, he would surely be an overpaid, unmotivated, injury-riddled, poor-rebounding, poor-defending, perimeter-oriented seven-footer who is supposed to be a shooting specialist but can’t hit the broadside of a barn and, inexplicably, has the full backing of management. The only way that combination gets worse involves something truly treasonous, like spitting on a fan or getting busted for off-court criminal activity.

New GM Masai Ujiri, hired in May to replace Bryan Colangelo, is wasting no time tearing apart what was one of the worst dollar-for-dollar rosters in the league. Colangelo’s reluctance — or inability — to move Bargnani was one of the decisions that sealed his fate. That Ujiri will reportedly land a first-round pick (plus an additional draft asset or assets) while taking back two smaller contracts for Bargnani so soon after taking over will surely vault him into demigod status among Raptors partisans.

The costs involved in dumping Bargnani — and all the pent-up frustration he represents — are not overly taxing. One would assume the Raptors will pursue the possibility of a buyout with Camby, who can’t exactly be thrilled about leaving a potential title contender for a fringe playoff team (at best) at his age. Given that Camby is only guaranteed a little over $5 million combined over the next two seasons, it’s possible his contract could be used in a future trade. As for Novak, he is a helpful, reasonably-compensated role player who fully understands that his job is to spot-up shoot (42.5 percent three-point shooting last year) and try not to get destroyed on the other end. There figures to be plenty of minutes available for him in Toronto.

Moving Bargnani also allows Ujiri to use his amnesty clause on one of the other brutal contracts on his books, should he so desire.

NEW YORK

Grade: C-

This trade isn’t going to sit well with the peanut gallery, given Bargnani’s substandard play and questions about how his indifferent attitude will play with New York’s demanding fans and media. The Knicks are all-in on the possibility of a change of scenery resurgence. At his best, Bargnani has been a fairly dynamic offensive talent that requires attention from opposing defenses. But that player has been gone for years. If he resurfaces, the Knicks will be able to crow about their ability to “buy low” on a player that many franchises surely deemed not worth salvaging at his price. If not, he’s one more big contract tying up their flexibility.

The pain of taking on the money owed to Bargnani is lessened somewhat by the inclusion of Camby and the fact that Bargnani’s contract expires next season, which allowes New York the ability to shop it for someone else’s overpaid/underperforming dead weight again next summer. Ultimately, the reported package paid — a rotation player, a first-round pick, additional assets — is just too much to give up for a one-way player who doesn’t commit to the glass, especially considering that New York’s offense was among the league’s best last season.

The uncertain health of Amar’e Stoudemire’s knees — which required two minor surgeries last season — is a major factor as well. Bargnani makes the most sense in what was essentially Stoudemire’s role last year (when healthy): a reserve big man behind Tyson Chandler and Carmelo Anthony who provided some offensive pop and kept some of the pressure off the Knicks’ perimeter shooters. It’s unclear how both would be utilized off the bench at the same time — imagine the sieve interior defense that would create! — or why the Knicks would want to return to a starting lineup that includes two traditional bigs rather than the small ball lineups that worked last season. Does that make this move an acknowledgement that Stoudemire can’t be trusted to remain healthy?

The Knicks are surely feeling the pressure to keep up with the Joneses after the Nets made the expensive decision to acquire Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett from the Celtics. The Anthony/Stoudemire/Chandler trio is set to make $58+ million next season, making game-changing moves difficult, if not impossible. Even with those acknowledgements made, does a fully healthy and productive Bargnani really alter the Knicks’ ceiling next year? If not, what’s the point? And why spend the money and part with a pick rather than roll with Novak?

31 comments
SARPT1
SARPT1

BECAUSE NOVAK STINKS....does not move without the ball, get to the free throw line, rebound, pass, dribble or shoot inside of the three point line. He's a horrible defender. it seems like you did not watch the last 30 or so games, where Novak became completely useless.

Scuba
Scuba

Some people are talking about this guy like he's a total bust.  A bum.  He did average 21.4 and 19.5 points per game just 2 and 3 years ago....

WilyCoyoteSuperGenius
WilyCoyoteSuperGenius

The Knicksare ever more desperate. Saddled with bad contracts they take on another whiner - and give up another firt round pick. By 2016 that may well be a lottery pick.

nip
nip

The Knicks should trade Chandler to get rid of his contract and go after Howard.  It wasn't just his defensive humiliation against Indiana.  All season long all kinds of  point guards  had their best games of the year driving to the basket.  The choice of Chandler as the defensive player of the year was silly as was his inclusion on the defensive 1st team all star team.  I just don't get it.  He's certainly not terrible defensively but players have been able to go to the hole far too easy.  Check out his blocked shots numbers.  Even Kenyon Martin was better at closing down drives to the basket when he came in for Chandler.




ejordain
ejordain

What is Golliver, or anyone for that matter, talking about? Camby was never healthy and was never GOING to be healthy for the Knicks, and Novak completely fell out of the rotation. He can't get his shot off against the better defensive teams, which makes him useless in the playoffs. 2 years in a row proved as much. 

And if you think the Knicks offense was good enough you obviously didn't watch any of the Indiana series. 

SO maybe Bargnani is a bumb. A Knick team with no other possible way to upgrade their roster gave up 2 players it was never going to use and pick 3 years from now for a chance on a 7 footer who can shoot the 3 to come in and possibly be a good bench player. Where is the downside? 

craigdifran
craigdifran

Ahem, Andrea's game just got whole lot easier in NY. No pressure to be a major player, doesnt have to rebound anymore..just sit on the 3 line shooting unpressured 3's or passing back in to a credible finisher.. his best games he came off the bench.. this smells like the vince carter trade all over again.. and T.O knows what he did to us after he was shipped to Jersey.. oh, he rembered how to dunk again! Just like Andrea is gonna remember how to rebound and shoot 3's.. and burn the raptors everytime they play against each other.. Old man Camby! Welcome back, how long untill you demand a trade this time around? And Steve who..?

craigdifran
craigdifran

I have a feeling Andrea is gonna burn the Raptors after this trade, ala Vince Carter.. he is not the #1 player by far on the knicks and he'll basically hang around the three point line untouched, covered by a shorter player..he'll throw up unpressured 3's or pass back inside to a credible finisher.. his game just got a whole lot easier.. he had some of his best games coming off the bench as well. As for T.O, welcome back Camby, its been a while, how long untill you demand a trade this time? Steve Novak is just a cheaper, shorter version of Bargniani it seems

jayant69
jayant69

Only in the NBA do you trade so much for a mediocre player, wow. I know the Raptor fans are excited today. You get rid of a bum and you get back some cap space and a first round pick. NICE.

RobShelley
RobShelley

As a Raps fan, I'm thrilled! Too bad Camby's return is TO is so late. I expect him to be bought out or moved again. 

Bargs is not as bad as this writer makes him sound. At the beginning of the season before last, Bargs was having his best year. His defensive focus was up and he really looked to be rounding into form as a Dirk-lite (which was his projected potential). However, as with Vince Carter before him, he has real attitude problems and is prone to grossly under-perform. I like the Knicks and hope they can get value out of him; but they overpaid big time! 

Knickztape21
Knickztape21

This is a great deal, both novak and camby had NO contributions in the knicks playoff run. Bargnani can stretch opposing bigs away from the basket, gives another scoring threat to help Anthony and is only 27. Peace Camby!  

DeanHewitt
DeanHewitt

It is incredible that NY would grab anyone available and sought by other teams rather then develop the team by picks and better trades.  Do you really need a $12 million backup for Stoudemire?

d6
d6

Even if solely for trade bait a year down the road, it's not an awful trade. We got rid of Novak's crappy contract and old man Camby, and gave up a pick that'll likely be in the 20s.

I think it's a wash--at best, we get better, and at worst? Nothing changes. I'm alright with that.

ShawnKemp2012
ShawnKemp2012

Wow!  I was wondering how Masai would fix this roster.  Great start!  Sorry Knicks fans...but you are going to HATE this guy. lol.  

K.r.Qunynghamm
K.r.Qunynghamm

They've got to be kidding. Man, The Raptors are jumping up and down and cheering over this one. The only folks who want him are his relatives and we haven't heard much from them in ages.  To  lose Camby in the deal I can live with as he didn't reeally like playing in NY, but Novak too? The draft choices are a moot point as NY tends to choose poorly anyway, as the player gets hurt quickly or traded  before they ripen. Oh well, at least the guy isn't 39 years old.

mrlecorbeau
mrlecorbeau

Is he the one with big balls?   oh snap, that's the other paisano....

Simon Sharkey-Gotlieb
Simon Sharkey-Gotlieb

*ahem*

LOL Knicks, enjoy!  A bag of balls would have been enough for his contract, but thanks for the extra picks anyway.

ZachBregman
ZachBregman

I'm completely fine with this. The pick shouldnt be worth anything if we can be good enough that Carmelo wants to retire in NYC. The other stuff is more or less bad contract so we are not gaining/losing anything in terms of cap. The Knicks need to shake it up and at worst Bargnani will help space the floor for Melo at best the change of scenery will help him get his act together and he can become the secondary scorer that Melo was asking for. 

Sportsfan18
Sportsfan18

Knicks suck and this will ensure they continue to suck...  They gave up a 1st round and two 2nd round selections for this piece of garbage?  He's what Darko always hoped to be... think about that...

doghockey
doghockey

@Scuba Quiet.   Don't bother the cyber-screamers with facts.  They are on a roll.

ejordain
ejordain

@WilyCoyoteSuperGenius where else were they going to be able to add a 20 pt scorer? And a 7' one at that? Whatever he is its still better than anything they were going to get out of anything they gave up to get him

scBlais
scBlais

@craigdifran Big difference, VC was dominant with the Raptors.  Andrea has never done anything in Toronto.

casualumberjack
casualumberjack

@craigdifran The win in Toronto isn't about performance, but about money. Even if Bargnani performs well on the big stage in NYC, the Raptors will not be 'burned' by the deal. He simply wasn't performing in Toronto. 

ianforbes
ianforbes

@RobShelley I live in T.O and am a Raps fan. I have no idea what you're talking about with respect to "Bargs". This certainly wasn't his best year. He's only ever showed slivers of being any good, and this year he sucked badly. T.O. fans are fickle. We yell and scream to get rid of this guy and when we finally are able to get more than a bag of basketballs for him, we start crying about being burned like  the VC trade, and how we didn't get enough. Makes me laugh.

ShawnKemp2012
ShawnKemp2012

@ZachBregman Good luck with that!  I've had to watch him for the last seven years and I can tell you this:   Bargnani doesn't like playing basketball. He has loads of talent, but about as much drive as a smart car.  

d6
d6

@Sportsfan18 Yeah man, those 54 wins last season scream "suck."


akattack
akattack

@ianforbes@RobShelley

"I have no idea what you're talking about ... This certainly wasn't his best year."

"At the beginning of the season before last, Bargs was having his best year."


SportsPhan
SportsPhan

@d6 @Sportsfan18 54 wins and a second round exit is most likely the ceiling for this Knicks team, congrats.