Posted October 17, 2013

Heat’s LeBron James suggests former Celtics look hypocritical for Ray Allen criticism

Ben Golliver, Boston Celtics, Brooklyn Nets, Kevin Garnett, LeBron James, Miami Heat, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen
Ray Allen; Kevin Garnett

Ray Allen (left) beat Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Doc Rivers out the door in Boston. (Chris Trotman/Getty Images)

Ray Allen’s decision to leave the Celtics and sign with the Heat in 2012 was the first of a series of dominoes that finds Boston embracing a full-scale rebuild this season. Following Allen’s departure, a season-ending knee injury to Rajon Rondo, and a one-and-done run in the 2013 playoffs, the Celtics decided to finally pull the plug on an era of contending that began in 2008, facilitating coach Doc Rivers’ move to the Clippers and trading Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Jason Terry to the Nets.

The decisions made sense for all the involved parties; Boston gets a fresh start, Rivers gets a ready-made team to run and the ex-Celtics players get to write a final chapter to their respective careers on a loaded Brooklyn roster.

The only hiccup in this narrative? Garnett and Pierce didn’t mince words when Allen decided to move on from Boston to Miami, stoking the Celtics/Heat rivalry at the expense of their former teammate.

LeBron James — who is indebted to Ray Allen for the rest of his life after the Game 6 miracle — has made it clear that he hasn’t forgotten what the former Celtics said about his teammate.

ESPN.com reports that James, who himself left Cleveland for Miami, has pointed out the after-the-fact hypocrisy in the criticism of Allen.

“I think the first thing I thought was, ‘Wow, Ray got killed for leaving Boston, and now these guys are leaving Boston,’” James said. “I think it’s OK; I didn’t mind it. But there were a couple guys who basically [expletive] on Ray for leaving, and now they’re leaving.

“That’s the nature of our business, man. I don’t know what Boston was going through at the end of the day. I know Ray had to make the best decision for him and his family and his career. Doc, KG and Paul did that as well. You can’t criticize someone who does something that’s best for their family.”

CBSSports.com reported that Garnett replied Thursday: “Tell LeBron to worry about Miami. He has nothing to do with Celtic business.”

Allen did take a bit of a beating. At Boston’s 2012 Media Day, Garnett told reporters that he lost Ray Allen’s phone number and that he “[wasn't] trying to communicate” with his former teammate. When the Celtics and Heat played in November, Allen famously attempted to high-five Garnett, only to receive a cold shoulder and be completely ignored.

Pierce, meanwhile, said that he was “very surprised” that Allen left and that the decision “definitely hurts,” saying in April that he still wasn’t ready to talk to Allen about it.

Finally, Rivers opined that Allen “absolutely” made the wrong choice, that Allen wanted a bigger role on offense and that Allen was “bothered” by the fact that he didn’t start for Boston.

Although both Rivers’ departure and the Garnett/Pierce blockbuster trade possessed lots of moving parts that created emotional divorces, James is fundamentally correct: Rivers, Garnett and Pierce all made the same calculation as Allen, just one year later. Rivers has admitted that he didn’t have the stomach for a rebuild, and Garnett possessed a no-trade clause in his contract that would have allowed him to follow through on his February declaration that he wanted to “retire a Celtic.”

Much of the anger towards Allen emanated from the fact that he took less money to play for Miami, the team that had just eliminated Boston from the playoffs. Had he made a cash grab for some anonymous team in the Western Conference, he would have gotten off easier. Again, though, all of the former Celtics can be accused of doing the same thing. Rivers didn’t land with some middling outfit: he now runs the stacked Clippers, a team that many now consider to be the favorites in the Western Conference following the injury to Russell Westbrook. As for Garnett and Pierce, they now make up 40 percent of a Brooklyn starting lineup composed entirely of 2012 and 2013 All-Stars, playing for an owner whose payroll exceeds $100 million (before a monster luxury tax bill is assessed). They’re not exactly slumming it.

With a year of hindsight, Rivers, Garnett and Pierce do look like a group of guys who realized that remaining competitive would require them to swallow their anger — and their Celtics pride — to learn a lesson from from the league’s best.

62 comments
Jeff63
Jeff63

Garnett is a whiny piece of sh*t. He doesn't have anything to do with Celtic business anymore either, so stfu ...

rico.mcmillan
rico.mcmillan

Furthermore, LBcrybabyJ doesn't understand nor this so called reporter/blogger that the difference between Allen and the others is Allen left on his own as a free agent. KG, Pierce & Terry were traded. Now its correct there was no trade clause in the contract which means KG could have veto'd the move. But what would be the point? The team can't win as assembled and it needs to move on, the three guys moving on is a good move for the Celitcs as well as for them at this stage in their careers, they didn't bolt at the first chance to do so at the detriment of the team they once played for...if the so called reporter/blogger did his homework correctly that obvious circumstance would have been pointed out. 

Doc Rivers on the other hand bolted like Allen for a better bed to sleep in...so he should receive crap for that cheesy move.  In fact, Rivers still had time left on his contract and forced his way out the door...so the comparison with Allen is a good one.  LBcrybabyJ is correct in pointing out the hypocrisy there...but certainly misplaced  with KG. So when you write..."Again, though, all of the former Celtics can be accused of doing the same thing."...is incorrect, if you want to be a reporter/blogger get the angles in the story straight first.

rico.mcmillan
rico.mcmillan

Not sure whats to miss and of course another reporter getting the story wrong. But who's surprised about that. KG, Pierce, Rando, & Rivers were upset that Ray decided to bolt the hated rival, for less money supposedly because of wanting more playing time. When he got just about the same playing time in Miami. At the end of the day any of us would be upset with a team member who played a significant role in getting together to make a run at the twilight of careers. None of them begrudges Ray for having the ability to chose just the manner in which he chose and where he chose to go.  If I were one of them, Ray would be dead to me too. Its one thing if the team didn't want to resign him...I'd say hey man go do what you got to do, but Boston tried to get him to stay and he decided early to bolt to Miami...again the RIVAL! Thats like a Redskin leaving to go win play for the Cowgirls...of a Bronco bolting for the Raiders.  It's a real easy point to see, shame of this guy who wrote this...another so called report getting the wrong angle of the story again....what's new about that!

Itsjustmeman
Itsjustmeman

I think LBJ should shut his mouth regarding this issue.  The truth is he doesn't know what's on Allen's mind when he left Boston.  It's probably his way of getting back to his Boston team mates because of the way he was treated during his last season.  And really, Allen thinking about his family.  How much he's getting at Miami compared to what he should have gotten at Boston.    

RobertJacke
RobertJacke

LaBaby two things are different Allen left because he wanted too and sign as a free agent, KC & PP left because they were traded............Unless LaBaby you know the differnece.........

jason g1
jason g1

At the end of the day it's a business. There is no more loyalty in sports. One day your the starter and the next day you hear from the media that you have been traded. So regardless if you leave on your own terms or not someone is always going to have something to say. It's a business!!!! Colts dumped Peyton Manning and now the owner is talking smack on him. KG has a big mouth and a piss poor attitude. He left Boston too. Where was your loyalty KG??? Pierce??? Don't worry I'll wait!

Blinker
Blinker

“I think the first thing I thought was, ‘Wow, Ray got killed for leaving Boston, and now these guys are leaving Boston,’” James said.

What about YOU leaving Cleveland?????  Eff QUEEN JAMES!!!!!!!!!!

FredFlintsone
FredFlintsone

Allen took less cash to move to a much hated  rival. I can see where that would bother the big 2 and rivers

yardrib
yardrib

People change jobs all the time for many reasons.  Businesses are no longer loyal to the worker, so don't get pissed when workers are not loyal.  The N.B.A. is a business if you don't believe me try and by  a court side ticket.  Ray made a personal business decision and KG and Pierce have always been cry babies and bullies. 

jamesjohnsonjr
jamesjohnsonjr

F lefraud james, Allen saved his bacon, of course he's going vouch for him F James and his mama

Jessica2
Jessica2

Who in the hell would ever want to play and or stay on the pathetic "two-pump chump" Celtics!

SandersonKramer
SandersonKramer

Who gives a damn what Lebron thinks. He didn't even go to College.

AaronDunckel
AaronDunckel

Everything LBJ is saying is 100% accurate.  American sports fans are always killing athletes in the public forum because they "took the money" or "didn't care about winning" or they are "just getting a paycheck"  

Ray Allen showed that he wanted to win, and so he  took less money to win a ring, something that most fans are always complaining that sports stars dont do enough.  The Celtics shopped Ray on the trading block for awhile before letting him go in free agency, and he simply did what was best for his career.  


Cinti-fan
Cinti-fan

I don't see the similarity either.  For that matter, LeBron's 'decision' antics were worse than both cases.

sirvon1st
sirvon1st

LBJ just don't get. It was never simply about Ray Allen leaving the Celtics. It was about Ray Allen taking a pay cut to join a rival.

Fyreboy
Fyreboy

Celtics could care less what Lebron thinks I'm sure.

gymviking
gymviking

Not really the same thing....when the others left, the Celtics had made the decision that it was time to reset. Allen left and got good money to go play for the frontrunning team. It wasn't about his family. It's what he wanted to do. The ring and the criticism were just parts of the decision he made.

duckfan59
duckfan59

Let's see: Ray got a ring so I don't think he much cares what Garnett and Pierce think.
As far as the video, Garnett's never been a class act so why would anyone expect anything different?

conorklnohara
conorklnohara

Garnett and Pierce were traded by Danny Ainge. They did not collude with two preemptive free agents, years in advance, before aligning with Brooklyn.


I wonder how N.B.A. journalists must feel being forced to coddle a grown man's clearly mistaken ego for fear of losing interviewing priority. smh

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@Jeff63 And since you don't have anything to do with his business, he would likely tell you to do the same.

jwats19731
jwats19731

@Itsjustmeman "How much he's getting at Miami compared to what he should have gotten at Boston." Other than the opportunity to play for a championship, and more minutes perhaps nothing. LBJ should not shut his mouth, he knows probably better than anybody else (certainly better than you) the drama that comes from making a PERSONAL DECISION regarding ones career. Perhaps you should "shut your mouth" regarding the issue or at least stop trying to curtail the mans first amendment right to freedom of speech. 

jwats19731
jwats19731

@Blinker Point is LeBron never bashed or even questioned ANYBODY's decisions regarding their careers. He is merely pointing out the hypocrisy of KG and PP, and likely soon enough Rondo.

jwats19731
jwats19731

@FredFlintsone So, the particulars of his contract is what bothered them? So Ray should have gone to Charlotte so as to not offend the big 2 cry babies? Allen did what was in his best interest, the coolest part is that he hit the biggest shot of anybody on the team last year AND got himself another ring. 

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@SandersonKramer I know plenty of college grads whose words are not worth two cents as well.  In fact, as the education system continues to become nothing more than a debt factory, it becomes more true every day.

jwats19731
jwats19731

@sirvon1st So in your mind the only thing Ray could have done was 1. Sign with a horrible team, Charlotte perhaps? Or 2. signed for another non contender so long as they gave him a raise? LBJ didn't leave the Cavs for a rival...as if there was one, but he certainly did leave money on the table in exchange for DOING WHAT HE WANTED TO...

AaronDunckel
AaronDunckel

@sirvon1st you mean, taking a pay cut to win a ring, which is what we always whine that our athletes dont do enough of

C-Diddy
C-Diddy

@Fyreboy could NOT care less - the expression is could NOT care less - if they COULD care less, then it still matters

jwats19731
jwats19731

@Fyreboy Probably almost as much as the champ cares what the ex Celtics think. Point is KG and PP know they mistreated Allen, and likely see the hypocrisy of it all.

AaronDunckel
AaronDunckel

@gymviking Allen left to a championship caliber team and took less money to do it.  Its an admirable thing unless he left your team - which is why Celtics fans just look bitter for complaining

dei1c3
dei1c3

@TheCantankerousNut How is he "bang on"?  Ray left a contending C's team for greener pastures.  Garnett agreed to waive his no-trade clause (and convinced Pierce to go with him) because the C's were rebuilding.  Not even close to the same.

el-cid
el-cid

Nobody whines that athletes from their team don't take a pay cut to go win a ring with a rival.  Did you miss the point there big guy?  Your point is like saying OKC fans complain that Durant hasn't taken a pay cut to go to Miami and win a ring.

gymviking
gymviking

@AaronDunckel I don't see how honorable comes into it. He is making a lot of money playing a kid's game and chose to go with the team that had the best chance to win. I am not a Celtics fan, but any team's fans are likely to resent it if you sign with a rival. When LeBron comes up for free agency, should he decide to sign with Lakers or somebody else (for a better opportunity), Heat fans will be just as bitter as any others.

conorklnohara
conorklnohara

@JoeCabot It lessens the quality of the conference. Nobody in the West would attempt to do this. The competition is too strong.

Garnett would have retired without Pierce. What Allen did, what James and Wade and Bosh elected to do, was respectful neither to their franchises nor to the professional game. For years, Miami has only had to overcome serious resistance from two teams in their conference: post-championship Boston and young Indiana. Not exactly the Lakers, Rockets, and Memphis Grizzlies of the West, as low-seeded teams, since 2011.

The East will finally have a challenging Playoffs for Miami. We'll see what James and Wade and Bosh are capable of doing against Chicago, Brooklyn, and Indiana's combined challenges. They will not leave the East this season, imo.

jwats19731
jwats19731

@dei1c3 @TheCantankerousNut Garnett made a kings ransom with the Twolves after they took him straight outta HS then he bad mouths the team once he gets traded...guys a monumental Dbag.

jwats19731
jwats19731

@dei1c3 @TheCantankerousNut How are they contending? Did they barely make the playoffs last year? The Celtics brought in Jason Terry and Courtney Lee, Allen's minutes took a hit so he left...where is the controversy? At least Allen did not "convince" any other stars to flee she sinking ship in bean town.

HerschelAnderton
HerschelAnderton

@dei1c3 @TheCantankerousNut  um..no. it's EXACTLY the same thing.  do you mean to tell me that the C's could've contented last year if they had had allen?.. no way.  the C's window for a championship had closed, and allen knew that and left.  he was simply smarter than kg and pierce (and whining d-rivers for that matter.)  stupid people aren't able to acknowledge that, though.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@conorklnohara So it is okay if management picks which players should play together, but when the players themselves do it, somehow it is wrong?   Don't see the logic there.

conorklnohara
conorklnohara

*other than Wade's loyalty to Miami and the gauntlet of Pat Riley.

Jeff63
Jeff63

@CELTICBLOOD Your caps lock is on moron. You're pathetic, comparing leaving the Celtics to fighting against your own country. Boston sucks in part because they have fans like you.

yardrib
yardrib

@CELTICBLOOD 

What about when good p[ayers leave other teams to play for the Celtics ie KG 

Will10
Will10

Get off your high horse. Celtics ain't what they used to be and he only played on the Celtics for 4 years! He owes more to the bucks than the Celtics

CELTICBLOOD
CELTICBLOOD

RAYS A FAKE , TO LEAVE THE CELTICS IS LIKE LEAVING YOUR COUNTRY DURING A WAR AND FIGHTING FOR THE ENEMY .  iT BOTHERS ME GREATLY! NO CLASS..I DONT CARE IF HE TOOK LESS MONEY, ITS NOT A HONORABLE THING TO DO. BEING A CELTIC NO MATTER  HOW BAD THEY PLAY IS STILL BETTER THAN JOINING A TEAM FULL OF PLAYERS WITH NO HEART. PAUL PIERCE AND GARNET AND RONDO PLAYED WITH THE CELTICS LIKE IT WAS THE ONLY TEAM THEY COULD EVER PLAY ON, DEDICATION, THE WILL TO MAKE YOUR TEAM WIN, THE PAIN OF LOSING, THE LEGENDS THAT ONCE WALKED IN THOSE GREEN JERSEYS..ALL OF THAT PUSHED THE TRUEST CELTICS TO STAY THERE AND KEEP BATTLING. THE DIDNT CARE IF THEY WON A RING EVERY YEAR AS LONG AS THEY KNEW THEY WERE FIGHTING FOR A TEAM THAT PLAYED WITH PRIDE AND HEART. SO RAY ALLEN CAN HAVE HIS RINGS AND PLAY FOR A TEAM THAT ALREADY HAD THE PIECES BUT THAT WILL NEVER BE HONORED, IT WAS GIVEN TO HIM AND THATS NOT RESPECTABLE TO ME. HES A GREAT PLAYER OF THE GAME BUT HE CHOOSE TO GIVE UP AND THAT ISNT WHAT A TRUE CELTIC WOULD DO. BIRD NEVER DID IT, PIERCE WOULDNT HAVE, NOR GARNET..THEY WANTED TO REMAIN ONE PIECE AND KEEP BEATING THE HEART OF THE LION. ITS SAD TO SEE THE CELTICS REBUILDING, I MISS MY TEAM AND WATCHING THEM FIGHT TO STAY RELEVANT .  THAT'S ADMIRABLE.  

el-cid
el-cid

@TheCantankerousNut @dei1c3 Sure, Lebron is qualified to point out the failings of others when they move from team to team.  Yeah, that's it, that's the ticket.

jwats19731
jwats19731

@jamesjohnsonjr So your only cool with the teams getting to dictate the players future...I see, very American. 

jwats19731
jwats19731

@conorklnohara @HerschelAnderton "Miami only won a championship because of Ray Allen..." Yeah, cause the heat have a total lack of sharp shooters coming off the bench...Did James Jones even play in the playoffs last year? Ray did contribute, no doubt but to say the heat "ONLY WON" cause of Allen shows your utter ignorance.

Will10
Will10

You're dumb. Dont post on this

jamesjohnsonjr
jamesjohnsonjr

i hate the C's and especially the cHeat. you and leface are wrong. what KG, Doc and Pearce did doesnt not compare w/ chicken Allen. THEY WERE TRADED